ZTK meeting - 2010-06-01

Attendance

ccomb, j-w, hannosch

Agenda

  • Minutes of last meeting
  • Follow-up on tasks, open points
  • New and ongoing tasks, open points.
  • Planning the next meeting

Discussion

Minutes of last meeting

  • The minutes were principally agreed on.

Buildslaves testing the ZTK on required platforms

  • The test reports from the buildslaves as setup by Jan-Jaap testing the ZTK on the Windows platform are now indeed sent to zope-test.
  • We still need 64-bit Windows slaves. Jan-Jaap notes that The Health Agency will be somewhat busy the coming period, so these slaves might need to wait a little more. Unless of course someone else sets up slaves.
  • Note that the buildslaves set up by THA test the``released`` packages and thus should not need a compiler installed. So, an MSDN license is not necessary for these slaves.
  • Ccomb made sure we have a buildbot testing the ZTK releases (and not SVN).

ZTK-layout

  • ccomb started a ZTK branch where he made a new layout for the ZTK files.
  • ccomb suggested creating and maintaining an extras.cfg where packages that make up “a common ecosphere” of software would be tested with and against the official ZTK.
  • hannosch and j-w didn’t see the need for such an extras.cfg as it would put extra maintenance burden on the ZTK-release-team efforts without a clear benefit. They’re in favor of a clearly defined set of packages that define the essence of a ZTK and nothing more.
  • After discussions a decision was made to remove the concept of the extras.cfg and go from there. If at some point in the future we think such a list of extra package is needed after all, we can resurrect the concept.
  • Since most of the ZTK-consumer frameworks will actually maintain lists of extra packages needed for their frameworks, it was suggested to send in automated test reports about the respective ecospheres. This will provide a sense of coherence and stability. (see for example the “Grok Toolkit” that extends the ZTK).
  • Breakage of these ecospheres will be the responsibility of the respective communities.
  • The ZTK contains sections referring to unresolved dependencies and other questionable packages. These packages need to be reviewed.

Tasks

  • We want 64bit Linux and Windows tests for the ZTK. j-w is bugging janjaap to create those. Maybe contact ccomb for adding slaves to “afpy”. We can resolve this issue when the build reports are coming in on zope-test. [j-w]
  • Each of the representatives will review the list of packages all three frameworks use, as made by Tres. [ccomb, hannosch, j-w]
  • Update the http://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit/about/coreextra.html documentation. [hannosch]
  • Update the ccomb branch to reflect the extras.cfg decision. [ccomb]
  • Review the unresolved dependencies sections in the ZTK. [j-w]

Open points

  • Decide on process for new feature versions and the process for going from 1.1.0 alpha to a final.

Next meeting

2010-06-15, 20:00 to 21:00 CET on #zope

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